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explode the bazaars are your e-ticket

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ride into the world of the paranoid

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strap yourself in as we traverse the

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universe exploring the unexplained UFO s

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cryptozoology waters as well as other

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dimensions it's time to take back the

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night now your electrifying hosts of

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exploring the bizarre Timothy Beckley

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and Tim Schwartz hi Tim wow I didn't

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know that you had so many UFO photos in

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your collection oh I'm impressed

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which what are those there well if you

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stop breathing down my neck I'll show

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you

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it's the Trent photos taken by mine pod

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Kent as I effectually called that they

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were taken in 1950 in a world

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McMinnville Oregon no no do you really

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think they're real they kind of look

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like pie pans from Edwards plan 9 from

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outer space why all the fuss over them

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they've been analyzed by experts over

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the years but it said they're the real

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McCoy they're sort of just simple UFOs

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just like the nice folks who took them

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you know they have a UFO festival in

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McMinnville every year to honor the

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Trent's and to celebrate the occasion oh

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yeah I've heard about that the locals

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and tourists dress up in outrageous

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alien costumes and there are floats and

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cotton candy and music all on Main

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Street I always enjoyed a parade but you

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have to watch out for those nasty

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fast-moving UFO floats especially the

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ones that are driven by the dreaded men

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in black well maybe maybe we should just

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go back to the KC or our studios where

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where we know we'll be nice

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safe well I hate leaving McMinnville but

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maybe we'll return to there a festival

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takes place okay so I'm a cop as long as

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you buy the cotton care uh and and a

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rubber hot dog what is shape one is

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shaped like the mother ship there you go

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alright and and since you say it looks

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like a pipe and maybe they have

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McMinnville pies I suppose but uh you

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know I I made my own subtle way I'm sort

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of impressed by these photos back when I

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was in UFO seminary school I mean back

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when I was about 13 and 14 and I was

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just starting to collect my UFO

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memorabilia there were two things that

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you could get at least two things you

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could get for free one was a Coast

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glassy Coast Guard photograph that was

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taken through a window I think at a

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Coast Guard base it showed three or four

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lights of the sky over I think a parking

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lot you get that for free by writing to

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the Coast Guard and the other one if you

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wrote to the McMinnville I believe it

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was registered in the newspaper they

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would send you a free reproduction of

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the cover of the newspaper that

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contained the tread photograph so that

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was one of the first things it was

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poster size believe it or not and it was

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glossy printed and I hung it up on my on

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my wall and I wish I had that today I

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would be a real collector's item that

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would probably be the closest to the

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original reproduction of the objects

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because it was printed in the image

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mental newspaper so there you go yeah

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well that's the to think that you could

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get something like that for free I mean

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you know it's you can't get anything

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like that nowadays

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not for well you so if you're right if

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you write to us you could always get

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something for free with a

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we have the biggest giveaway and all of

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the paranormal and what would that be

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well we get to give them a free

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subscription the conspiracy journal

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at and occasionally even a free book on

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Kindle I mean we've got that we got the

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what do they call it swag we've got a

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puppy dog we're gonna give away what do

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we got planned for tonight well I'm

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really happy because we have with us

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Caitlyn pop and she is going to be

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talking about the the 20th annual a UFO

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festival there in McMinnville Oregon now

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Caitlyn is the assistive historian at

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McMinn ins I hope I'm pronouncing that

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right and correct historic hotels and

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has been with them for over four years

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now having joined the history department

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just last spring now 2018 was her first

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time at tending the McMahons UFO

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festival in McMinnville but her interest

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in UFOs and UF ology began at a very

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early age growing up within the Star

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Wars and Star Trek cannons now she's

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always held an innate curiosity in the

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fastness of space and the possibility

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that were not alone in this universe her

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interest lies mainly in experience of

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stories trying to piece together

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similarities to prove that there is

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intelligent life out there somewhere

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maybe not here but maybe somewhere else

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out there so Caitlyn thank you very much

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for being with us on exploring the

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bizarre well you know this is like I say

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this is a kind of hood just something

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I'm very into why did

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tell us Kaitlyn a little bit about the

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background of the photographs when they

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were taken to circumstances and a little

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bit about the trends yeah of course so

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I'm you know what's really lovely about

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the Trent family and why this is really

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just fascinated the UFO community for so

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many years isn't you know 1950 you know

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the trench they were out you know on

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their farm really regular day for them

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out in the country and McMinnville

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Oregon you know the Pacific Northwest in

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the 1950 is kind of still probably a

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pioneer pioneer town you know sound if

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you will and you know they were in their

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farm doing errands and you the mrs.

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Trent saw you know just something out in

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the sky thought it was you know weird

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and you didn't call for her husband you

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know get the camera and of course they

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had just one of those film the Viking 50

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point-and-shoot you know nothing fancy

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kind of camera and you know they took a

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series of photographs and you know what

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is really spectacular about you know

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this whole experience is that they just

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somewhere in storage and they forgot

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about it for years you know until

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someone brought it up again and they

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finally were like you know let's have

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someone take a look at these photographs

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and you know finally it comes out and

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you know we have they turn out to be

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some of the most credible you know UFO

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photographs you know that we have seen

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in you know the last you know however

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many years just because as you were

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saying earlier so many people you know

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have taken a look at these photographs

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and tried to disprove them but you know

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a lot of people generally can't you know

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just and it's the beautiful thing about

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it is they really never wanted anything

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exam they never wanted money and that

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kind of thing they again nearly forgot

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about the photographs and they are

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almost lost a time but you know that was

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kind of something that we think is

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of nowhere you know and then of course

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they you know kind of blows up it blows

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and then it just becomes you know a part

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of the history of that Flying Saucer

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quintessential you know what we want to

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see from the quintessential flying

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saucer you know and

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so it's just something really special

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and you know 20 years ago my boss Tim

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we have you know we were doing research

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about a property that we were buying

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hotel organ and he came upon these

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photographs and you know he's like why

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don't people honor these why don't we

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celebrate this you know and that's how I

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was born you know 20 years ago it's

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really exciting and it's just only gone

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up you know from there and we've only

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gotten bigger and bigger as I understand

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it is outside of Roswell it would be the

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second largest UFO festival in the

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country what what normally is the

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population of McMinnville and what does

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it swell to a UFO festival weekend you

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know the population in McMinnville but

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it is definitely a small-town community

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you know they have a large farming

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industry kind of buzz you get to the

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outskirts of the city so I would say

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it's probably you know it's this James I

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just got to find the other day it's

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probably about 30,000 people or so so

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again not a large town by any means or a

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large community and you know we bring in

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for that fat festival just for that day

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specifically and we have you know people

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who come and stay at our hotel property

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and you know they stay for the whole

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weekends and they make a whole weekend

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out of it and it's one country so you

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know it's a really beautiful destination

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for people to come and visit even if

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they you know know nothing about you

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know about you know the giant photograph

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or you know the weekend

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it's just a fun weekend beautiful wine

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country in Oregon so you know what

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what's not to love about it now is the

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newspaper still in business you know on

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the right time so if you take a picture

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of the whole photo sorry they haven't

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they have the rights to vote like full

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nuisance so if you were to want to

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reproduce that doubtful as you were

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saying earlier about

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for free you know page you know articles

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and that would be something that they

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would get the rights to but yeah the

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photographs of themselves I believe are

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now kind of open you know good to say it

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used they've been used you know

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everywhere just so about that the

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interesting thing about the photographs

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is that they are very simplistic I mean

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some people say oh they're they're pie

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plates or it's something that sampling I

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think there's a an electrical wire and

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whatever you would call that right yeah

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yeah going across the photograph except

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I think the object appears to be above

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the wire instead of below it so that

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that kind of uh doesn't weigh with that

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theory yeah also to it now how old were

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the treads we'll see it's portrait is

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that correct yes they were Ponyville

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entrance they were older so they had a

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younger son you know that was keep

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living in house at the time and you know

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what's really interesting is that again

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that they just really sat on you know

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the photos for so long and they really

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never wanted anything out of it and you

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just kind of forgot about what they

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which I think it's funny because we

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think about this being like a

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quintessential you know UFO sighting but

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these stories are what create you know

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the stereotypical it sure that create

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briefly saw he doesn't leave something

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beautiful because so many people you

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they've tried to do all kinds of you

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know different tests on you know the

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angles of oh yes I mean it's just

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amazing all the things talking about you

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know there's been enormous

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you know investigation for sure well you

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know the was in Life Magazine did a

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whole retrospect on the on the

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photographs and I believe they had the

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Sun well what are the the reasons I

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suppose that they some people have

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thought that the saucer was hanging from

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the overhead a electric line there was

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because there's a photograph and the

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magazine of the son who was quite kind

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of tall actually if I remember correct

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and the photograph of him climbing a

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stepladder

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but I don't think in all reality even if

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he were to hoax a photograph that he's

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going to reach the that that wire by

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climbing up that real rickety ladder

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that he had there was a plus the

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photograph was taken of him on the

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ladder was taking some time after the

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the pictures I didn't over a year or two

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years or whatever when you try to

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recreate these experiences you know

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that's where in lies the problem and

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where people want to try to poke holes

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you know in the story and in the

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situation well well well you know I I

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went to youtube today and in fact I

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think well there's a little clip we're

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going to use this off the you know

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Chamber of Commerce or your site or

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something of people parading around as

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aliens with a big saucer kind of trying

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to get off the the the ground there but

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did you ever checked to see if there

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were

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other UFO events around that same time I

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mean whether the the trance by

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themselves or had other people reported

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saucers before or after I'm not sure

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exactly within that theme

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sure I had just actually a tension

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presentation by one of our speakers this

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year Jim Clarkson who is Washington

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James Clark center Jim Clarkson is with

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Washington move on and you know one of

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the big themes that he really wanted to

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make certain and make note to the

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audience is that this time you know the

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1950s the Pacific Northwest was really a

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hotbed for UFO activity I mean we had

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Kenneth Arnold you know further oh

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you're you know obviously the Maury

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island you know that ended up in you're

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not more ya you know a credible you know

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event but you know it's one of those

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things where this time period not a lot

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of people realize we're also focused on

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area 51 we're still focused on Roswell

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you know but it's one of those things

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where you don't realize that you know we

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have had so many credible sightings here

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and it's you know I'm getting chills

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just thinking about it and especially in

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that time there was just something about

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you know the 1950s and kind of that

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mid-century you know that really was a

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hotbed for UFO activity and it got the

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government's attention and that's

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something that we're really trying to

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focus on this year as our theme as well

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is you know it's the government that was

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really trying you know trying to

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understand what these sightings meant

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and I think that's something that's

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really interesting and unique case again

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was just kind of our jumping-off point

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is the are the photographs I mentioned

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or is there analysis of them and any of

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the Project Blue Book Records

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you know I'd have to look into that and

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hear that probably would be a question

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that I'm gonna die to ask for our

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whatever another yes we have some enough

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for the festival Peter Davenport who is

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with the national UFO recording old

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friend of ours yeah but he he's as much

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yeah oh yeah he's a

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as well-informed as anyone could

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possibly be in the in the field now

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has anyone ever approached anyone when

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you're a group they're indicating that

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they might have witnessed this or seen

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something unusual in the sky around that

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same period I mean often in their years

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laters years later it's kind of like a

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crime scene you know witnesses might

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come forward again and the trace I mean

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you know so not reluctant again but it

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just was such an anomaly that was weird

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you know what did we just see you know

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they kind of theory to decide and it was

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I mean of that time in the 1950s like

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when you saw a lot of these lights and

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again when we talk about you know that

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you know 10 Arnold experience you know

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it was a pilot and you know it was it's

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a London happen you know a lot of the

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time in today's society you know but I

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can only imagine and you know mid

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century you know it was one I ever come

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through or come forward and talk about

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anything that they had seen you know so

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there's a really great possibility that

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you know someone had come forward and

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I'm not sure you know it's so long ago

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in 1952 who knows if anyone had actually

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seen that same anomaly you know happen

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occurred you know it's just an

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interesting thing yeah I have seen there

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was an interview posted on YouTube and I

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could not find that I I searched for it

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a couple of years ago but you know the

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the the lady she she lived longer than

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her Hutton told it isn't that correct

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that's correct yeah yeah well I remember

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seeing an interview with her well maybe

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it was the two of them and I couldn't

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tell you exactly what year the interview

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was was done but there was an interview

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and they were sitting that you're

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sitting I think on the front porch they

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they always lived in the same spot right

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I mean they never moved from there if I

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recall correctly yeah always wears their

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home so they were seated in a rocking

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chair I guess this is you know a couple

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of years before they

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passed away because they were very

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elderly and and they told the same exact

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same you know story had it seemed that

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credible they weren't particularly shy

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about describing the the event I guess

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is that you know is it years went on it

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probably came more you know it fixed in

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their and their memory and in their in

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their lives as well and I'm sure they

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were approached by you know many people

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to tell the story over the years do you

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know if the son is still alive no we

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only have contact with a granddaughter

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currently who actually also live in

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McMinnville and she is still you know

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kind of you know she is not willing

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necessarily to come and you know tell

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the story of her family but he's

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definitely you know willing to be

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acknowledged every kind of we ask for

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she want to be on the head float I know

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you've had this that in Freedman they're

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leading the parade who are some of the

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other people that have showed up in the

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past to speaking who are some of your

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the speakers this year yeah of course

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you know so we're really fortunate what

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kind of people don't really you know

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realize about our festival is although

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we are you know we are mighty and yeah

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we have been doing this you know for

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again for this is our 20th annual very

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exciting we've only kind of grown from

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there you know spectacular year we can

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we can think of so we had a lot as we

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did a whole phoenix white series one

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year and that was really exciting we had

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a whole series about the sorry

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biking on my mat the back of my head my

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breakup of my tongue of course but and

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then last year we had two eyewitnesses

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from the aerial school phenomenon just

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spectacular we flew one of them in from

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London and it was just an amazing

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experience because they're now you know

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young women who are my age I mean

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they're in there you know late 20s early

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30s and just to have them you know be

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even though it's new something that's

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always been fascinating for me it's the

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chocolate eyewitness's you know a lot of

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right Kaitlyn let me let me stop you let

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me stop you here because we have to go

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to our bottom of the hour break so when

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we come back we'll continue our

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conversation with Kaitlyn pop on

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exploring the bizarre so stay tuned for

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[Music]

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now back to exploring the bazaars with

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two of the most electrifying researchers

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in the paranoid your hosts Timothy Becca

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welcome back to exploring the bazaar I'm

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Tim Schwarz tonight we're talking with

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Caitlyn top and the famous 1950 Trent

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McMinnville Oregon UFO photos and the

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20th anniversary now of the event ville

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UFO festival now Caitlyn before we had

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to go to the break we were talking about

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past guests that you've had for the

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festival what about this year who do you

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have lined up as as speakers and do you

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yet have a what do you call it this play

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parade festival king or queen and are

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you allowed to say oh I mean we have we

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brought in just going to be even a

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spectacular festival and you know

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nationally internationally people aren't

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very excited about what we're bringing

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in this year so I'll start off I mean we

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have and we have George Knapp for coming

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back again this year they were here with

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us last year presenting I George Knapp

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hunt for the skinwalker I guess Jeremy

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Korbel worked with George Knapp to

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produce a film this year but they

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brought with them just some very

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exciting so Jeremy for those been

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working on bob lazar area 51 flying

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saucers you he premiered it here last

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year and he is going to be presenting a

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special screening Oh

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and then we will be doing a presentation

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with Gardens our himself know why

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certainly I could see why by all means

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yes I've just gotten the buzz I mean

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this is when you leave attract people

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talking on Facebook and people just

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buzzing about it on the internet and he

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has really been getting the most

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traction and you know as far as people

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if he does not speak in public I mean

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this is just a big deal and he really

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after you know kind of went public with

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his whole idea I mean I didn't hiding

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and he was still living his life but he

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really kind of went into hiding from the

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whole community and he got a lot of

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flack from you know the UFO community

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and there still is a very big division

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about whether or not you flying or

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edible so this is kind of what you know

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Jeremy result wanted to talk about in

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his film area saucers you know it's

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really kind of a testament to kind of

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the things that we like to talk about

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you know and our festival as well it's

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it's fun it's a parade you know we have

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a costume contest you know we're doing

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all these fun wine events but we really

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want to bring in you know the credible

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witnesses we want to bring in maybe

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controversy we want to get people

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talking and that's you know really what

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bob lazar is all about you know where

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this might be the last time he ever

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speaks in public so we really you know

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want to make sure that he told her story

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he's given a platform to tell his story

543
00:27:56,620 --> 00:27:54,980
and you know that's why we're just

544
00:27:58,900 --> 00:27:56,630
really excited about having bob lazar

545
00:28:01,540 --> 00:27:58,910
come in so that it was something we're

546
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:01,550
you know reading about you know what we

547
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:04,250
neglected to what we neglected to tell

548
00:28:12,190 --> 00:28:06,890
people is what is that what are the

549
00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:12,200
dates for the festival oh yeah it is

550
00:28:17,260 --> 00:28:14,240
going to be it's Thursday May 16th

551
00:28:19,330 --> 00:28:17,270
through Sunday May 9th process you know

552
00:28:21,340 --> 00:28:19,340
this time next week we will be done in

553
00:28:24,030 --> 00:28:21,350
McMinnville Oregon you know for our

554
00:28:25,860 --> 00:28:24,040
festival yeah

555
00:28:27,810 --> 00:28:25,870
gonna be it's gonna be a lot of fun for

556
00:28:30,780 --> 00:28:27,820
sure so every night we'll have kind of

557
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:30,790
like a you know grant speaker event you

558
00:28:36,750 --> 00:28:34,450
know doing Friday Saturday we have a few

559
00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:36,760
speakers and filling the main speaker

560
00:28:39,030 --> 00:28:38,110
events if you all kind of going

561
00:28:41,670 --> 00:28:39,040
throughout the day

562
00:28:43,410 --> 00:28:41,680
so again other desk we're very very very

563
00:28:45,900 --> 00:28:43,420
excited also you know speaking of

564
00:28:49,050 --> 00:28:45,910
eyewitnesses we're bringing in retired

565
00:28:52,700 --> 00:28:49,060
commander David flavor who is an

566
00:28:55,770 --> 00:28:52,710
eyewitness for the terrible case he was

567
00:28:59,700 --> 00:28:55,780
he's a topic was a Top Gun pilot he's

568
00:29:02,070 --> 00:28:59,710
now retired but he you know was I did a

569
00:29:03,870 --> 00:29:02,080
lot of the u.s. Nimitz down you know in

570
00:29:07,620 --> 00:29:03,880
the Pacific Ocean off the coast of San

571
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:07,630
Diego and they saw a unidentified flying

572
00:29:14,850 --> 00:29:12,010
object and he was 2004 you know there is

573
00:29:18,660 --> 00:29:14,860
now record that has been released in me

574
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:18,670
that has a video of them on these planes

575
00:29:25,620 --> 00:29:22,930
just and like in awe of what these

576
00:29:27,770 --> 00:29:25,630
crafts that they had never you know seen

577
00:29:29,610 --> 00:29:27,780
before they had such clear visibility

578
00:29:32,370 --> 00:29:29,620
you know it's just a really

579
00:29:34,770 --> 00:29:32,380
extraordinary story so this is actually

580
00:29:37,770 --> 00:29:34,780
the first time that retired commander

581
00:29:40,530 --> 00:29:37,780
David flavor has spoken like in public

582
00:29:44,220 --> 00:29:40,540
so this is gonna be really big and we're

583
00:29:46,980 --> 00:29:44,230
very excited but also David favorite

584
00:29:49,770 --> 00:29:46,990
eNOS is again you know the eyewitness

585
00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:49,780
someone who was there and his story

586
00:29:53,970 --> 00:29:52,000
really became public he was unknown up

587
00:29:57,870 --> 00:29:53,980
until the New York Times article that

588
00:29:59,880 --> 00:29:57,880
was released in 2017 and so this is

589
00:30:01,530 --> 00:29:59,890
something that you know we're even to

590
00:30:03,390 --> 00:30:01,540
this day still talking about that the

591
00:30:05,670 --> 00:30:03,400
government is you know really and

592
00:30:09,260 --> 00:30:05,680
especially the US maybe they've come and

593
00:30:11,310 --> 00:30:09,270
counter with many many many Yoko's I

594
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:11,320
can't remember what they call them they

595
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:12,970
have a specific term for them of course

596
00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:14,770
but you know they come and chanted with

597
00:30:18,390 --> 00:30:16,510
these things almost every day in their

598
00:30:21,150 --> 00:30:18,400
training runs and you know they're all

599
00:30:21,810 --> 00:30:21,160
these guys they're they see they see oh

600
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:21,820
okay

601
00:30:26,010 --> 00:30:23,530
like all times of you know day and night

602
00:30:28,410 --> 00:30:26,020
and you know they are admitting that

603
00:30:30,990 --> 00:30:28,420
they study and they track these objects

604
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:31,000
but they will never release you know

605
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:33,250
specifically release or any of you know

606
00:30:37,140 --> 00:30:35,410
what their findings which is a shame but

607
00:30:37,870 --> 00:30:37,150
it's interesting it's a whole turning

608
00:30:39,790 --> 00:30:37,880
point again

609
00:30:43,420 --> 00:30:39,800
this has been a very very very exciting

610
00:30:45,490 --> 00:30:43,430
couple years you know you follow G so

611
00:30:47,410 --> 00:30:45,500
we're happy to be a part of that and we

612
00:30:49,630 --> 00:30:47,420
really think you know again this tiny

613
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:49,640
little yellow festival we are you know

614
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:51,710
one of the longest-running festivals in

615
00:30:55,510 --> 00:30:54,290
the country as you're saying and I mean

616
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:55,520
we're excited to kind of be

617
00:30:59,890 --> 00:30:57,290
groundbreaking in that way and we have

618
00:31:01,420 --> 00:30:59,900
things that nobody else does then I say

619
00:31:02,890 --> 00:31:01,430
you can Lee you know kick back and like

620
00:31:04,660 --> 00:31:02,900
have a beer while you're watching you

621
00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:04,670
know bob lazar to this week so it's

622
00:31:17,650 --> 00:31:13,810
well it's really it's kind of fortuitous

623
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:17,660
that you're having the retired Navy

624
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:19,610
pilot come to speak at the festival

625
00:31:24,790 --> 00:31:22,010
considering that just really what was it

626
00:31:29,140 --> 00:31:24,800
just last week Tim that there is this a

627
00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:29,150
lot of press coverage on not only once

628
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:32,480
again the the tick-tack UFO photos but

629
00:31:39,030 --> 00:31:35,600
that the Navy is considering developing

630
00:31:42,910 --> 00:31:39,040
in a whole different way that pilots are

631
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:42,920
you know supposed to report their UFO

632
00:31:56,610 --> 00:31:45,650
sightings so I mean that's that's great

633
00:31:59,050 --> 00:31:56,620
publicity for your festival happening

634
00:32:02,140 --> 00:31:59,060
within the last few days we've noticed

635
00:32:04,930 --> 00:32:02,150
just such an up flow of just interest

636
00:32:06,610 --> 00:32:04,940
about the festival from internationally

637
00:32:09,790 --> 00:32:06,620
I mean this is just spectacular it's

638
00:32:12,970 --> 00:32:09,800
gonna be a thing we related I mean we

639
00:32:14,530 --> 00:32:12,980
were excited everyone else was really

640
00:32:16,180 --> 00:32:14,540
seeing kind of the work that we're doing

641
00:32:17,950 --> 00:32:16,190
and the things that we're bringing and

642
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:17,960
it's just really validating we're very

643
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:19,610
excited for it and you know some other

644
00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:22,370
yes and we're having you know the Maury

645
00:32:29,470 --> 00:32:25,910
island guys you know come and you guys

646
00:32:31,420 --> 00:32:29,480
I'm a happening you know it's gonna be

647
00:32:33,340 --> 00:32:31,430
really exciting they're doing this whole

648
00:32:35,020 --> 00:32:33,350
you know presentation about the more

649
00:32:37,150 --> 00:32:35,030
Island incident and you know that's the

650
00:32:39,250 --> 00:32:37,160
idea that we again wanted to kind of you

651
00:32:41,410 --> 00:32:39,260
know talk about is that the Pacific

652
00:32:43,300 --> 00:32:41,420
Northwest has been such a hotbed you

653
00:32:45,310 --> 00:32:43,310
know and also you know California this

654
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:45,320
whole Coast thing of the west coast you

655
00:32:49,660 --> 00:32:46,970
know it's been such a hot bag hurt you

656
00:32:51,810 --> 00:32:49,670
know UFO activity and so that is just

657
00:32:53,669 --> 00:32:51,820
something that's just really exciting

658
00:32:55,139 --> 00:32:53,679
think we want to highlight another thing

659
00:32:56,909 --> 00:32:55,149
we're really excited about this year and

660
00:32:58,619 --> 00:32:56,919
it's a little bit different than

661
00:33:01,379 --> 00:32:58,629
anything we've really done before

662
00:33:03,210 --> 00:33:01,389
so Daniel Myrick may not be a household

663
00:33:05,789 --> 00:33:03,220
name but he is one of the co-directors

664
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:05,799
of the Blair Witch Project which you

665
00:33:09,539 --> 00:33:07,210
know everyone remember is being

666
00:33:12,899 --> 00:33:09,549
traumatized by me me as a kid when it

667
00:33:14,489 --> 00:33:12,909
came out he actually unbeknownst to us

668
00:33:16,019 --> 00:33:14,499
you know we found out you know a little

669
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:16,029
later working with kind of interviewing

670
00:33:21,210 --> 00:33:18,850
people he was at our UFO festival last

671
00:33:23,310 --> 00:33:21,220
year and he was filming for his new

672
00:33:26,190 --> 00:33:23,320
movie called sky man that he's currently

673
00:33:27,779 --> 00:33:26,200
working on so we asked him you know we

674
00:33:30,690 --> 00:33:27,789
were like would you want to come to the

675
00:33:32,940 --> 00:33:30,700
festival and you know maybe shake wits

676
00:33:35,249 --> 00:33:32,950
from your film you know it's not yet

677
00:33:37,529 --> 00:33:35,259
released he has a trailer and he just

678
00:33:39,989 --> 00:33:37,539
graciously accepted I mean he's such a

679
00:33:41,609 --> 00:33:39,999
nice guy I'm were very excited so yeah

680
00:33:43,529 --> 00:33:41,619
Friday night that's kind of a little

681
00:33:45,269 --> 00:33:43,539
bonus event that we capped on Friday

682
00:33:47,820 --> 00:33:45,279
night we normally don't you know do

683
00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:47,830
anything in the fleet you know but 9:30

684
00:33:51,869 --> 00:33:49,840
on Friday the ticket is a little

685
00:33:52,999 --> 00:33:51,879
discount it's about $10 if anyone wants

686
00:33:55,289 --> 00:33:53,009
to come and see

687
00:33:58,259 --> 00:33:55,299
Daniel Myrick is going to be again

688
00:34:00,749 --> 00:33:58,269
co-director of excuse me the Blair Witch

689
00:34:02,399 --> 00:34:00,759
Project is going to be doing a you know

690
00:34:05,219 --> 00:34:02,409
a special presentation where he's going

691
00:34:10,289 --> 00:34:05,229
to be showing clips that he filmed at

692
00:34:11,940 --> 00:34:10,299
our youth festival yes last year you

693
00:34:13,829 --> 00:34:11,950
know they might be in his movies it's

694
00:34:15,450 --> 00:34:13,839
kind of fun it's exciting and you know

695
00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:15,460
he's gonna be doing a little Q&A and

696
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:16,960
showing some question you know just

697
00:34:20,069 --> 00:34:18,399
talking about a film so we're very

698
00:34:22,289 --> 00:34:20,079
excited for that as well again something

699
00:34:24,059 --> 00:34:22,299
a little different ium where it's going

700
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:24,069
to be the same format got a man's about

701
00:34:29,549 --> 00:34:26,649
this guy who as a kid you know witnessed

702
00:34:31,169 --> 00:34:29,559
not I you know UFO you know seeing

703
00:34:33,720 --> 00:34:31,179
themselves as an eye witness it kind of

704
00:34:35,069 --> 00:34:33,730
blocked it out and so it's just going to

705
00:34:36,839 --> 00:34:35,079
be a really interesting experience and

706
00:34:39,450 --> 00:34:36,849
again something that a lot of our guests

707
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:39,460
you know can continually see that

708
00:34:43,889 --> 00:34:41,770
experiences the wondering are we alone

709
00:34:45,869 --> 00:34:43,899
kind of in the universe not constant

710
00:34:48,270 --> 00:34:45,879
searching for that that the answer to

711
00:34:53,700 --> 00:34:48,280
that question so it's a sunnier and

712
00:34:56,010 --> 00:34:53,710
again interesting serious topics but

713
00:34:57,809 --> 00:34:56,020
again that's really the beauty of our

714
00:34:59,819 --> 00:34:57,819
festival my people keep coming back and

715
00:35:02,339 --> 00:34:59,829
you know presenters you know and

716
00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:02,349
speakers you and you know our guests

717
00:35:05,700 --> 00:35:04,510
keep coming back every year because it's

718
00:35:08,340 --> 00:35:05,710
just a unique

719
00:35:10,740 --> 00:35:08,350
a unique event it's really just special

720
00:35:15,570 --> 00:35:10,750
we love it so much so yeah we're excited

721
00:35:19,710 --> 00:35:15,580
we live here well you know how much

722
00:35:22,290 --> 00:35:19,720
chance oh no I'm just gonna say you know

723
00:35:24,660 --> 00:35:22,300
the you mentioned the the Navy's

724
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:24,670
interest interest in the subject well

725
00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:29,170
the the Navy has actually shown over the

726
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:32,560
course of the years perhaps as much if

727
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:36,130
not more interest than the and UFOs than

728
00:35:43,860 --> 00:35:41,130
the Air Force even in fact we have a

729
00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:43,870
special edition of the of a book called

730
00:35:51,150 --> 00:35:48,250
the case for the UFO by doctor the

731
00:35:51,930 --> 00:35:51,160
latest Ron where the doctor and MJ

732
00:35:56,250 --> 00:35:51,940
Jessup

733
00:35:58,020 --> 00:35:56,260
it's the Vero edition and back in the I

734
00:36:02,180 --> 00:35:58,030
guess Tim one was the book published

735
00:36:07,110 --> 00:36:02,190
like around 1955 or 56 I think right oh

736
00:36:12,330 --> 00:36:07,120
yeah yeah the one of the companies that

737
00:36:15,570 --> 00:36:12,340
the air the Navy was doing business with

738
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:15,580
got a hold an annotated version of the

739
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:19,210
case for the UFO where several

740
00:36:23,630 --> 00:36:21,970
individuals apparently with the great

741
00:36:25,830 --> 00:36:23,640
knowledge about time travel and

742
00:36:30,330 --> 00:36:25,840
spaceships and things along that line

743
00:36:32,460 --> 00:36:30,340
had had made marginal notes about what

744
00:36:35,220 --> 00:36:32,470
they knew about the subject based upon I

745
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:35,230
guess what material was in the in the

746
00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:38,010
book by dr. Jessup who later either

747
00:36:43,350 --> 00:36:41,200
committed suicide or something strange

748
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:43,360
happened to him because fighting about

749
00:36:49,710 --> 00:36:46,450
yeah and in a park a he had died from

750
00:36:52,410 --> 00:36:49,720
carbon monoxide poisoning by putting the

751
00:36:55,740 --> 00:36:52,420
hose to the window of his car and

752
00:37:00,450 --> 00:36:55,750
rolling up the the the window but the

753
00:37:04,770 --> 00:37:00,460
this this company made about 15 or 20

754
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:04,780
copies of this annotated book especially

755
00:37:12,690 --> 00:37:08,290
for the Navy who wanted to pass it

756
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:12,700
around to the to the top brass also and

757
00:37:16,740 --> 00:37:14,410
I don't know whether this still goes on

758
00:37:18,210 --> 00:37:16,750
to this day remember Tim they they had a

759
00:37:19,170 --> 00:37:18,220
wall chart that they used to have

760
00:37:24,299 --> 00:37:19,180
hanging on all

761
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:24,309
maybe ships it was I believe janap 115

762
00:37:33,150 --> 00:37:28,450
or 114 and it had all sorts of yeah

763
00:37:34,950 --> 00:37:33,160
aircraft and object objects that and the

764
00:37:38,430 --> 00:37:34,960
men on the on deck you should be on the

765
00:37:40,140 --> 00:37:38,440
alert for and report if they saw and

766
00:37:43,650 --> 00:37:40,150
there were several different shapes of

767
00:37:46,609 --> 00:37:43,660
UFOs above Russian fighter planes and

768
00:37:50,549 --> 00:37:46,619
things along that line you know I mean

769
00:37:53,069 --> 00:37:50,559
yes yeah sorry to interject when my

770
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:53,079
grandfather was a officer in the Navy

771
00:37:58,470 --> 00:37:55,450
and was you know on many of the Korean

772
00:38:00,240 --> 00:37:58,480
War you know beginning of Vietnam but I

773
00:38:03,150 --> 00:38:00,250
wish he was alive to this day I wish I

774
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:03,160
could have that is just so fascinating

775
00:38:07,530 --> 00:38:05,890
that is something I wish I could kind of

776
00:38:08,940 --> 00:38:07,540
go back at time and ask him about that

777
00:38:10,319 --> 00:38:08,950
because that is amazing

778
00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:10,329
you know something I kind of want to say

779
00:38:14,430 --> 00:38:11,800
to that to that note to you is that

780
00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:14,440
again growing up in a government family

781
00:38:17,250 --> 00:38:15,760
my dad worked for the government

782
00:38:24,829 --> 00:38:17,260
you know kind of growing up in a naval

783
00:38:27,690 --> 00:38:24,839
family as well it is the Navy recognizes

784
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:27,700
credibility credible threat if you will

785
00:38:31,799 --> 00:38:30,010
you know that might not be like this you

786
00:38:33,630 --> 00:38:31,809
never really say that you oppose

787
00:38:35,549 --> 00:38:33,640
whenever people experience them may they

788
00:38:38,730 --> 00:38:35,559
may not be threatening but it is the

789
00:38:41,819 --> 00:38:38,740
Navy to take seriously things that they

790
00:38:44,490 --> 00:38:41,829
see out in the sky out in the sea you

791
00:38:46,650 --> 00:38:44,500
know that says that is just fascinating

792
00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:46,660
to me and that for me just makes all of

793
00:38:50,309 --> 00:38:48,640
this of what we're doing you know so

794
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:50,319
much more credible so much more

795
00:38:54,030 --> 00:38:52,210
interesting and the fact that the Navy

796
00:38:56,730 --> 00:38:54,040
is validating as the US government is

797
00:38:58,770 --> 00:38:56,740
validating it I just think it's so much

798
00:39:00,510 --> 00:38:58,780
more fascinating and it's just

799
00:39:02,819 --> 00:39:00,520
validating for everyone that is involved

800
00:39:04,700 --> 00:39:02,829
and that's the thing is that the Navy

801
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:04,710
they take these things very seriously

802
00:39:10,500 --> 00:39:07,450
you know so they have to you know

803
00:39:12,329 --> 00:39:10,510
believe in an unidentified flying object

804
00:39:14,190 --> 00:39:12,339
you know that they just can't explain

805
00:39:15,839 --> 00:39:14,200
you know it's interesting for us to

806
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:15,849
think like you know that it's all

807
00:39:20,099 --> 00:39:18,130
something you can kind of wave away but

808
00:39:22,049 --> 00:39:20,109
you know Jeremy take these things very

809
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:22,059
seriously because if they could see it

810
00:39:25,289 --> 00:39:24,010
as a potential threat they're gonna want

811
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:25,299
to study it they're gonna want to know

812
00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:27,250
everything they can about it so that for

813
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:28,720
me it's the fact that they got doctor

814
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:31,210
gossips book you know specifically you

815
00:39:34,330 --> 00:39:31,490
know

816
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:34,340
the top brass it doesn't surprise me to

817
00:39:37,780 --> 00:39:36,410
be honest with you because it is just

818
00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:37,790
something they just want to know

819
00:39:42,070 --> 00:39:39,680
everything you know there is to know

820
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:42,080
about a topic if they can see it as a

821
00:39:46,359 --> 00:39:44,930
credible threat you know so that is just

822
00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:46,369
very fascinating thank you for all that

823
00:39:57,550 --> 00:39:52,160
yet information there Caitlin why do you

824
00:40:03,100 --> 00:39:57,560
think after all of these years and we've

825
00:40:06,190 --> 00:40:03,110
seen all kinds of different UFO photos

826
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:06,200
and now we have videos you can go on

827
00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:09,850
YouTube and see just all kind of

828
00:40:16,780 --> 00:40:14,960
brightly lit close-ups of UFOs you know

829
00:40:18,310 --> 00:40:16,790
flying around disappearing you know a

830
00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:18,320
little gray guys coming out of the

831
00:40:28,180 --> 00:40:21,710
landing craft what after all this time

832
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:28,190
that the Trent photographs are are still

833
00:40:32,859 --> 00:40:30,890
pertinent that that you know not only do

834
00:40:35,050 --> 00:40:32,869
people still look at them and are

835
00:40:37,330 --> 00:40:35,060
fascinated by him but you know you've

836
00:40:40,210 --> 00:40:37,340
you actually gone and build a UFO

837
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:40,220
festival around them you know are they

838
00:40:47,830 --> 00:40:43,330
do you know why why are they so special

839
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:47,840
you know that's a great question back in

840
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:51,050
the day it was Vice magazine it was

841
00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:52,970
wrong near the cover of this you know

842
00:41:00,430 --> 00:40:55,730
small town newspaper but it was

843
00:41:02,950 --> 00:41:00,440
something like so many people you know

844
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:02,960
decades later were kept going back to

845
00:41:08,650 --> 00:41:05,330
these photographs and kept thinking okay

846
00:41:09,609 --> 00:41:08,660
as technology progresses can I do bunk

847
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:09,619
these photographs

848
00:41:19,300 --> 00:41:12,850
can I you know see that they're you know

849
00:41:21,580 --> 00:41:19,310
you know Preda ball I think that is what

850
00:41:25,540 --> 00:41:21,590
makes them so special is that so many

851
00:41:28,180 --> 00:41:25,550
people you know 1950 is when they were

852
00:41:29,980 --> 00:41:28,190
taken in the 60s in the seventies even

853
00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:29,990
the same people are still trying to be

854
00:41:33,790 --> 00:41:31,760
about these photographs and so I think

855
00:41:36,609 --> 00:41:33,800
that is something that you know again we

856
00:41:38,020 --> 00:41:36,619
keep that back to its it's kind of you

857
00:41:40,620 --> 00:41:38,030
got to go back to your roots in a way

858
00:41:43,330 --> 00:41:40,630
you know it's it's these photographs

859
00:41:45,370 --> 00:41:43,340
almost created as I say like the

860
00:41:47,170 --> 00:41:45,380
stereotypes of like this one

861
00:41:49,390 --> 00:41:47,180
saucers you know I know that's not where

862
00:41:52,799 --> 00:41:49,400
the turn comes from it comes from you

863
00:41:55,569 --> 00:41:52,809
know it's just a really interesting

864
00:41:57,819 --> 00:41:55,579
things to think about that these

865
00:42:00,099 --> 00:41:57,829
photographs you know with technology

866
00:42:01,870 --> 00:42:00,109
advances and you know Jeremy Pargo

867
00:42:04,089 --> 00:42:01,880
actually last year at our festival talks

868
00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:04,099
a lot about this you know how there is

869
00:42:10,979 --> 00:42:06,529
this phenomenon that now we have a

870
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:10,989
camera at our disposal at all times we

871
00:42:16,089 --> 00:42:13,609
can be honest with you you don't always

872
00:42:17,890 --> 00:42:16,099
see what's around us I am a perfect

873
00:42:19,479 --> 00:42:17,900
example of this you know we're all you

874
00:42:21,069 --> 00:42:19,489
know examples I'm guilty of this is that

875
00:42:22,989 --> 00:42:21,079
you driving your car you're going in the

876
00:42:24,819 --> 00:42:22,999
same place every day back and forth and

877
00:42:26,650 --> 00:42:24,829
back and forth and I can get there not

878
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:26,660
even remember how I got there but the

879
00:42:33,579 --> 00:42:30,650
fact that you know this kind of object

880
00:42:36,009 --> 00:42:33,589
came out into the sky you know and

881
00:42:38,979 --> 00:42:36,019
Evelyn Trent saw this and was like no

882
00:42:41,319 --> 00:42:38,989
this is strange we need to kind of go

883
00:42:43,450 --> 00:42:41,329
out of our way you know it takes us

884
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:43,460
photographs and then you know they kind

885
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:45,170
of forgot about it and I just think that

886
00:42:48,819 --> 00:42:47,450
for me you know then to remember them

887
00:42:51,370 --> 00:42:48,829
years later and feel like this is what

888
00:42:53,799 --> 00:42:51,380
we saw if you believe that's great if

889
00:42:55,450 --> 00:42:53,809
not you know too bad because this is

890
00:42:57,549 --> 00:42:55,460
what we saw only believe in what we saw

891
00:42:59,620 --> 00:42:57,559
and I think that kind of is at the heart

892
00:43:01,420 --> 00:42:59,630
of it as well is that they just never

893
00:43:03,009 --> 00:43:01,430
wanted anything we never wanted money

894
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:03,019
than everyone is Fame and a lot of the

895
00:43:06,339 --> 00:43:04,729
times it's kind of know in people's

896
00:43:07,690 --> 00:43:06,349
lives you know if they've been an

897
00:43:10,089 --> 00:43:07,700
experiencer and if they've been an

898
00:43:13,029 --> 00:43:10,099
eyewitness and have an eyewitness

899
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:13,039
account and I just think kind of those

900
00:43:17,650 --> 00:43:15,049
points you know the technology as an

901
00:43:20,410 --> 00:43:17,660
advance they tried to debunk it you know

902
00:43:22,420 --> 00:43:20,420
we have all of these technologies on

903
00:43:24,969 --> 00:43:22,430
hand and I just think it was something

904
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:24,979
really special like a time that you know

905
00:43:28,150 --> 00:43:26,690
you're always looking to the skies and

906
00:43:29,380 --> 00:43:28,160
you're kind of always like living in the

907
00:43:31,029 --> 00:43:29,390
moment and like working in the day to

908
00:43:33,219 --> 00:43:31,039
day and we just don't do that as much

909
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:33,229
now and so we're kind of trying to honor

910
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:35,359
that and just you know the fact that we

911
00:43:38,739 --> 00:43:37,249
also have come together and you know we

912
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:38,749
do this is you know people have been

913
00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:40,249
coming in since the beginning and I

914
00:43:44,529 --> 00:43:42,079
think that's really special in that kind

915
00:43:46,509 --> 00:43:44,539
of brings people back it's really it was

916
00:43:48,579 --> 00:43:46,519
an honor these photographs that we know

917
00:43:50,380 --> 00:43:48,589
we did this and so that's for us it's

918
00:43:52,329 --> 00:43:50,390
just it makes the event just that much

919
00:43:54,940 --> 00:43:52,339
more magical and it's you know it's

920
00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:54,950
really changing the nature of UFO

921
00:44:00,099 --> 00:43:58,490
technology you know today as we see

922
00:44:02,349 --> 00:44:00,109
you know it's all about kind of what the

923
00:44:04,510 --> 00:44:02,359
government's capturing and you know and

924
00:44:07,510 --> 00:44:04,520
the high speed of it all and the radar

925
00:44:08,890 --> 00:44:07,520
we can't capture their speeds and we can

926
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:08,900
barely see them on like our radar

927
00:44:15,579 --> 00:44:10,970
screens you know but it was these people

928
00:44:18,430 --> 00:44:15,589
who are out chasing UFOs in their

929
00:44:20,799 --> 00:44:18,440
backyard farmers you know very simple

930
00:44:23,349 --> 00:44:20,809
it's not simple folks but you know

931
00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:23,359
they're very humble folk and they just

932
00:44:27,940 --> 00:44:26,510
so happened to see you disc in the sky

933
00:44:29,950 --> 00:44:27,950
and I think that's there's something

934
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:29,960
really special about that and so that's

935
00:44:32,430 --> 00:44:32,210
you know why be coming together in wine

936
00:44:37,150 --> 00:44:32,440
country

937
00:44:38,890 --> 00:44:37,160
[Laughter]

938
00:44:41,589 --> 00:44:38,900
it's just something really special and

939
00:44:44,940 --> 00:44:41,599
again it's it's it does come it's still

940
00:44:47,829 --> 00:44:44,950
a small town you know festival again

941
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:47,839
contest parade there's something really

942
00:44:50,980 --> 00:44:49,130
great about it we really bring the

943
00:44:53,079 --> 00:44:50,990
community you know together every year

944
00:44:54,910 --> 00:44:53,089
as well so the ability and the

945
00:44:57,130 --> 00:44:54,920
McMinnville human being a greater

946
00:44:59,380 --> 00:44:57,140
McMinnville you know community yeah

947
00:45:02,380 --> 00:44:59,390
we're happy with this year is this again

948
00:45:03,970 --> 00:45:02,390
gonna be spectacular all right well

949
00:45:06,039 --> 00:45:03,980
we've only got about three minutes left

950
00:45:09,339 --> 00:45:06,049
in the program so again why don't you

951
00:45:12,339 --> 00:45:09,349
let our audience know when this festival

952
00:45:15,130 --> 00:45:12,349
takes place and you know like when does

953
00:45:16,660 --> 00:45:15,140
the parade start and you know just maybe

954
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:16,670
a couple of the the highlights that you

955
00:45:37,390 --> 00:45:35,200
through Sunday in any event you can

956
00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:37,400
purchase tickets to any singular event

957
00:45:44,230 --> 00:45:40,910
$20 in advance 25 it's just easy to

958
00:45:46,930 --> 00:45:44,240
remember in our URL USFS com

959
00:45:49,059 --> 00:45:46,940
super easy so as always the parade is

960
00:45:51,130 --> 00:45:49,069
gonna be on Saturday it's actually a

961
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:51,140
later time than it has been in the last

962
00:45:55,630 --> 00:45:54,290
few years so go start at 3:30 so you

963
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:55,640
don't want to miss that it's just the

964
00:46:00,400 --> 00:45:57,170
whole city shuts down it's pretty

965
00:46:02,530 --> 00:46:00,410
spectacular so you have a couple of our

966
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:02,540
highlights of the festival this year Bob

967
00:46:06,430 --> 00:46:04,730
Lazar is going to be on Saturday morning

968
00:46:08,140 --> 00:46:06,440
at 9:30 where they're going to be

969
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:08,150
showing the area 51 in flying saucers

970
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:12,290
with Jeremy Korbel and George Knapp and

971
00:46:16,210 --> 00:46:14,570
a little Q&A with bob lazar it's going

972
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:16,220
to be awesome ascend mr. McMinn built

973
00:46:22,570 --> 00:46:18,050
community center for all of our big

974
00:46:24,430 --> 00:46:22,580
speaker but I'm also Peter Davenport

975
00:46:27,700 --> 00:46:24,440
from the national UFO Reporting Center

976
00:46:30,130 --> 00:46:27,710
and Jim Carson from the Washington MUFON

977
00:46:33,010 --> 00:46:30,140
doing I'm kind of like a fun lunch with

978
00:46:34,540 --> 00:46:33,020
the speakers and that is going to be on

979
00:46:37,240 --> 00:46:34,550
Friday and that is going to be

980
00:46:42,580 --> 00:46:37,250
spectacular as well 11 a.m. dan Myrick

981
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:42,590
from The Blair Witch Project is going to

982
00:46:47,170 --> 00:46:44,570
be showing some clips of sky man for a

983
00:46:48,940 --> 00:46:47,180
Friday night at 9:30

984
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:48,950
David afraid is going to be talking

985
00:46:54,190 --> 00:46:51,650
about the tick-tock UFO fate even UFO

986
00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:54,200
case Saturday at 1:00 p.m. and then be

987
00:46:59,380 --> 00:46:56,480
Politis from missing for one life don't

988
00:47:01,840 --> 00:46:59,390
be there Friday at 7 p.m. as well so

989
00:47:03,130 --> 00:47:01,850
it's just going to be a fun we're gonna

990
00:47:05,710 --> 00:47:03,140
have a lot of fun you know you're gonna

991
00:47:07,540 --> 00:47:05,720
bring drinking alienator IPA that we

992
00:47:09,790 --> 00:47:07,550
fruit especially for the festival and

993
00:47:12,730 --> 00:47:09,800
you know have a glass of our you appear

994
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:12,740
that way to sit back and kick back and

995
00:47:26,740 --> 00:47:24,650
enjoy the festival all right we're

996
00:47:28,500 --> 00:47:26,750
rapidly running out of time tibbe got

997
00:47:31,750 --> 00:47:28,510
about 30 seconds left

998
00:47:36,250 --> 00:47:31,760
I'm here with I'm here with my pie pan

999
00:47:40,420 --> 00:47:36,260
so I've eaten the pie and I'm ready to

1000
00:47:43,420 --> 00:47:40,430
toss it into the air but anyway I say

1001
00:47:46,060 --> 00:47:43,430
Jess and and thanks for coming on and

1002
00:47:50,650 --> 00:47:46,070
telling us the story of the other trends

1003
00:47:52,930 --> 00:47:50,660
and mendel a UFO festival

1004
00:47:55,420 --> 00:47:52,940
we'd like to get out there at some time

1005
00:48:00,580 --> 00:47:55,430
maybe in the future I guess it will be

1006
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:00,590
going on in years to come and Tim I

1007
00:48:05,590 --> 00:48:02,450
think we should mention that we've got a

1008
00:48:08,380 --> 00:48:05,600
new issue of the printed version of the

1009
00:48:12,690 --> 00:48:08,390
conspiracy journal that's out with all

1010
00:48:16,750 --> 00:48:12,700
our latest titles and titillating and

1011
00:48:18,610 --> 00:48:16,760
many titillating subjects and that's

1012
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:18,620
anybody wants to get a copy they can

1013
00:48:25,630 --> 00:48:23,410
just drop me a line at em our UFO ate at

1014
00:48:29,289 --> 00:48:25,640
hotmail.com

1015
00:48:33,970 --> 00:48:29,299
and I'll zip them off one in the mail

1016
00:48:37,029 --> 00:48:33,980
and send them a PDF as well so it's

1017
00:48:37,989 --> 00:48:37,039
always free free free here but by some

1018
00:48:40,450 --> 00:48:37,999
of our books

1019
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:40,460
it keeps us in business and keep us

1020
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:44,960
rolling like you have for since 1965

1021
00:48:53,769 --> 00:48:48,400
that's when I first first started this

1022
00:48:58,809 --> 00:48:53,779
insanity and I will continue to do it up

1023
00:49:02,229 --> 00:48:58,819
to the very last you've been listening

1024
00:49:06,099 --> 00:49:02,239
to exploring the Bazaar with hosts

1025
00:49:07,900 --> 00:49:06,109
Timothy Becky and T Swartz they're

1026
00:49:10,809 --> 00:49:07,910
taking back the night by jetting

1027
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:10,819
non-stop across the cosmos in search of

1028
00:49:16,690 --> 00:49:12,890
the truly bizarre and totally

1029
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:16,700
unexplained with you as they're cold

1030
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:19,210
Thursday nights at 7:00 p.m. Pacific

1031
00:49:24,890 --> 00:49:23,690
10:00 p.m. Eastern on the K cor digital

1032
00:49:27,470 --> 00:49:24,900
radio

1033
00:49:30,769 --> 00:49:27,480
for more information on exploring the

1034
00:49:33,650 --> 00:49:30,779
bazaar and hosts timothy Beckley and tim

1035
00:49:36,739 --> 00:49:33,660
Swartz check out their kco our digital

1036
00:49:42,980 --> 00:49:36,749
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1037
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:42,990
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